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Jul. 27th, 2004 | 08:00 pm
music: Felix Da Housecat - Happy Hour

Is it unethical to order food in, because the weather is too unsafe to go get it yourself?

no.


in fact, the question itself is somewhat unethical, because you are presuming to make value judgements on behalf of other people (the deliverypeople). I'll be a little more generous if you've done some kind of survey in order to have a statistical understanding. But we must assume that the other people in this world are rational actors, or go mad trying to save them.

-Trip

P.S. - When it freezes and/or snows in Austin, I take a taxicab to work. It's like being the star of some ponderous, slapstick-tragicomic automotive ballet.

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Bean

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from: fulguritus
date: Jul. 27th, 2004 06:05 pm (UTC)
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i love that icon. so cute!!!

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Eposia

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from: eposia
date: Jul. 27th, 2004 06:33 pm (UTC)
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However, it is a nice gesture, though certainly not required, to tip a little extra in recognition of the increased hazards they braved that you weren't willing to so you can eat.

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Triple Entendre

Chicken Man

from: triple_entendre
date: Jul. 28th, 2004 01:46 am (UTC)
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Yes, and I do tip extra for extra effort.

Although one of my most priceless moments was as a fried-chicken bicycle-delivery-guy ("It's the Chicken Man!" they would invariably cry out) slogging at high speeds through the worst downpour I've ever seen. I was dressed in protective plastic from head to toe, but still thoroughly drenched. As was my habit, I slipped into the dorm the back way and brought the tasty meal right up to the customer's room. She was cozily watching movies with several of her friends. I handed her the styrofoam containers carefully so as not to drip on her. "Awww!" she said, a little too slowly and loudly. "You're soaking wet." They were all looking at me; I was quite a sight. "And you came ALL the way up here and brought me my food." Her friends started to look a little uncomfortable. I said nothing, just stood there dripping, listening, waiting. Even more sweetly and slowly: "...and I'm not going to give you a tiip!" Her friends looked shocked, then embarrassed, but somehow helpless. In that moment, I have to admit, I loved her all the more for her total commitment to morifying her friends with this petty cruelty. Few things in life are so pure. She finished digging the correct change from her purse and handed it over with the sweetest of smiles. "Thank you," I said gracefully, and began my stoic trek down the back stairs, into the storm.

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NobodobodoN

Re: Chicken Man

from: nobodobodon
date: Jul. 28th, 2004 08:23 am (UTC)
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Was she cute?

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Triple Entendre

Re: Chicken Man

from: triple_entendre
date: Jul. 29th, 2004 05:06 am (UTC)
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Probably.

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JP Sugarbroad

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from: taral
date: Jul. 27th, 2004 06:55 pm (UTC)
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How can a question be unethical?

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Triple Entendre

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from: triple_entendre
date: Jul. 28th, 2004 01:52 am (UTC)
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Oops, you're right. I'm using that as a shorthand for something more complex, so my emphasis was misplaced. But you can probably guess what I meant.

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JP Sugarbroad

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from: taral
date: Jul. 28th, 2004 11:06 am (UTC)
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Actually, I don't think I can... the question has certain assumptions or implications which one might find unpleasant, but I don't see where ethics comes into it.

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valkyriie

You get ahead by doing what other people don't want to do.

from: valkyriie
date: Jul. 27th, 2004 08:38 pm (UTC)
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That is something Joseph would say sometimes and I think it's interesting.

It is making a demand for the supply of the delivery service.

Entrpenurially mispelling but speaking, A gold mine exists to be made in other's sloth.

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Triple Entendre

Re: You get ahead by doing what other people don't want to do.

from: triple_entendre
date: Jul. 28th, 2004 01:56 am (UTC)
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As a co-worker on the night shift assembly line used to say, with an irrefutable simplicity, "It's something to do!" As if, you know, he'd just be standing there otherwise, so he might as well be doing whatever it was.

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valkyriie

Re: You get ahead by doing what other people don't want to do.

from: valkyriie
date: Jul. 28th, 2004 04:42 am (UTC)
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As a student in middle school would say with pressure "Everybody's doing it" As if, you know, you weren't cool if you didn't.

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Triple Entendre

Re: You get ahead by doing what other people don't want to do.

from: triple_entendre
date: Jul. 29th, 2004 05:08 am (UTC)
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Nah, his point was more Zen than that!

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valkyriie

Re: You get ahead by doing what other people don't want to do.

from: valkyriie
date: Jul. 29th, 2004 07:34 am (UTC)
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My point was pure unabashed free association silliness.

Unrelated to what he said.

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Triple Entendre

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from: triple_entendre
date: Jul. 28th, 2004 04:05 am (UTC)
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Ooo! I want a railgun! And a pony.

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from: vioxel
date: Aug. 9th, 2004 06:37 am (UTC)
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If you really want a railgun, I can introduce you to Dr. Hebner. His array of faraday disks is currently disassembled, and spread over several buildings, but it can be rebuilt. My team in grad school is trying to convince some folks to fund the reassembly, so we can use the thing as a homopolar pulse welder.

We're estimating six months build time, at a cost of roughly $1m. Maybe a little more or less, depending on where assembly takes place, and transport costs.

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from: avice
date: Jul. 28th, 2004 11:27 am (UTC)
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It is only unethical if you know the drivers are being forced to drive to save their jobs rather than allowed to make the call themselves based on their own safety comfort level. Actually it would also be unethical if there was a reason your place was particularly difficult/dangerous to reach, particularly if did not make an effort to share that information with the delivery person. I do not however see an act of immorality in calling to see if a place delivers and if so placing an order, and certainly not if you are able to talk to the driver themself and verify their willingness to come. I guess i can see making the call either way. I do not consider it unethical to make the decision not to encourage another vehicle to brave the road when conditions are especially bad. I certainly think it is a worthwhile consideration under such conditions.

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