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Aug. 13th, 2003 | 04:05 am
mood: curiouscurious
music: Sincola - Bitch

Visualization works, but it takes focus -- and fear makes focus evaporate. Don't fight the fear, because violence/fighting/defending is just fear in action.

Instead, just walk away from it. Can't see how, where to walk, that would be moving away from the fear? Ah, you're still holding it. Like, right there in your hands. So put it down! Your body has better things to do.

Walking away, to the path where everything goes well: first, know that whatever happens, you're going to be fine. Now, write it down, or do something similarly physical with the idea. In fact, write a little essay, in the future past tense, about how everything went right and turned out amazingly well. The more detail you can reason into it, the better. Doesn't matter how likely these things are; they happened. Convince your audience -- you're just explaining the details of how and why it was that things turned out so great.

Now, read it. understand it, and expect it. Visualize it as if you're remembering it as it will have already happened. (Consult old Doctor Who shows for the correct tenses to use here). :-) Now, other people's choices may be different from what you wrote, but since you know how it's supposed to go, you can almost "correct" them.

(I've turned a "no" into a job offer this way before: to the "no" I made it clear I heard and understood, but said, thoughtfully, "well... that's unfortunate. Because..." and explained my firm belief that the job was a perfect fit). Business people in particular are all about results rather than details, which in this case gives you sway over them.

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Triple Entendre

Meta-comment #1

from: triple_entendre
date: Aug. 13th, 2003 02:07 am (UTC)
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Now, I need somebody to come give me all this advice, so I can follow it. :-/

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Triple Entendre

Meta-comment #2

from: triple_entendre
date: Aug. 13th, 2003 02:12 am (UTC)
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Just an observation, not a judgement: this isn't up to my usual standard of writing. Needs about twice the length, a slightly lower complexity score (or just less preciousness), and the metaphors should be stretched out a little and repeated using alternate phrasings.

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Emerald

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from: sea_of_change
date: Aug. 13th, 2003 08:29 am (UTC)
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Wow. Thank you.

This entry sparked a memory in me of something I had forgotten. (What? Is that grammatical?) Something Stu said to me last night. He told me if you feel yourself careening, you just have to go with it or you'll find yourself careening out of control. This was half-joking advice he was giving me both in reference to the stress I was feeling yesterday and the off-balance drunkeness I was feeling in that moment. Then he went on to talk about careening in a tureen, and it all went downhill from there.

But anyway, thank you for the fear advice, and inadvertently reminding me of some other similarly good advice.

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from: anonymous
date: Aug. 13th, 2003 09:13 am (UTC)
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but I'm not "looking."

or am i?

does that affect what i SEE?

or what i think/project</> that I am seeing

we can only see are far as the lens/question we are using to guide what we CAN see.

i think there is a lot of truth in this post that my Is will have to discuss further.

One has to overcome ANY and ALL limit situations. And FEARs tend to raise their heads when we first encounter them.

temporarally (as all things are)

So. As always. Once I get my feet wet - I inevitable find I must truly take the swandive. Those sharks are all in your HEAD, ya KNOW.

Rumor has it, they turn into beautiful dolphins....

Once you DIVE...

!t,h"anks;
dR% wHOEVER yOu aRe.*@..(-+=...


YOU ARE A WISE VOICE TO HAVE AROUND....

and understand what

D I A L O G U E

is about....and seem to have lots of truthful voices to through into the ongoing conversations here....

A L I V E


thank you


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Triple Entendre

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from: triple_entendre
date: Aug. 14th, 2003 03:35 pm (UTC)
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we can only see are far as the lens/question we are using to guide what we CAN see.

Usually. Other times, my head explodes.

YOU ARE A WISE VOICE TO HAVE AROUND....

Thanks.

Sometimes the sharks are real, but they aren't as hungry as we thought.

But I'm all about the jumping in.

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What do you think you are a Jedi? I'm a tridarian...mind

from: anonymous
date: Aug. 13th, 2003 10:30 am (UTC)
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Thanks, this was relevant, and sure it could have been longer/clearer but it got 80% of the point across which is just as good for me.

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What do you think you are a Jedi? I'm a tridarian...mind tricks don't work on me only $$$$

from: anonymous
date: Aug. 13th, 2003 10:31 am (UTC)
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Thanks, this was relevant, and sure it could have been longer/clearer but it got 80% of the point across which is just as good for me.

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Echoes from that Sphinx again....

from: anonymous
date: Aug. 13th, 2003 11:11 am (UTC)
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Hmmm....

herewegoagain *sigh*


that's what U think .

;)

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ANOTHER DIFFERENT Echo from that Sphinx again....

from: anonymous
date: Aug. 13th, 2003 11:13 am (UTC)
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I AM the other 20%... AM I AM I AM

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Triple Entendre

Re: ANOTHER DIFFERENT Echo from that Sphinx again....

from: triple_entendre
date: Aug. 14th, 2003 11:05 am (UTC)
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Do you self-identify as MPD, or is it a writing technique, a sort of literary conceit? Serious question.

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Re: ANOTHER DIFFERENT Echo from that Sphinx again....

from: anonymous
date: Aug. 14th, 2003 11:32 am (UTC)
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well FUCK YOU...

its BOTH...and i happen to orchestrate them very well in my beautiful brilliant but evercomplete becoming mine.

i just do jungian-shamanism :);)

its the "cure" ya know...

John Nash shouldda tried it....goddess gnows where we would be now... :O

SERIOUSLY...my neurodiagnossis is ADHD w/some DEPRESSION...both sides of the fam but very different.... *of course*

I'm just starting to understand what it is so I can channel it....I'm more of a Mel Levine view (although he's kinda-sorta-behaviorist *vomit* *vomit*) he calls it All Kinds of Minds (check his site same at .com)

I'm also a Jungian...but Hilman like in that it's about "inner processes" with emerging archetypes, shadows, projections of all kinds...that show your SELV-VES to itself in a dynamic process that only wants to FLOW...and have ALL VOICES HEARD...IN THE LIGHT OF GNOSIS.....NO SHADOW....

Isn't that REAAALLLLY what the Fellowship is all about? and how we are to save ourselves....

I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOU about this....

you GNOW a lot that I don't ....oceans....and we HAVE TO BREAK THESE SILENCES>>>>

I'm not Multiple...in the "crraaaaazzzzzy" way :) (see the Myth of Sanity for a different take on what I mean by this)...

Also....you would love SCATTERED....a new view of ADHD that's both/and that I've never found before (and I got overloaded with all the top research - especially what is coming out of the research with women - but applied to both males and females).

Half the book is online free....but this guy is ON TO SOMETHING....nature AND NURTURE...CONTEXT AND CHEMICALS...ALL INTERCONNECTED...

And btw....I'm writing a lot now because I feel my sabatical is coming to an end soon and I need to get this out in a forum so that all those I love will know what I am about...not "me" or "i"....but getting these ideas back out there into the mix of everything....

SEE ADRIAN for details of "amy-ness"

other than that... I come with no "testamonies" so....you'll just have to

trust

me

;)


BOOOO!!

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Re: ANOTHER DIFFERENT Echo from that Sphinx again....

from: ainanna
date: Aug. 14th, 2003 11:36 am (UTC)
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but at the heart of all i write...its very personal and intimate as well ... isn't that the way all language is - as well as its social construction?

scattered minds or scatteredminds.com do - do a search...gabor (first name) ... i think its loaned out.

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Re: ANOTHER DIFFERENT Echo from that Sphinx again....

from: anonymous
date: Aug. 14th, 2003 11:38 am (UTC)
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he's outa Canada too....so he's got a whollllllleee different view (without the blinders so much of our research is still wearing - and doesn't gnow.)

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Triple Entendre

Jungian shamanism

from: triple_entendre
date: Aug. 14th, 2003 03:35 pm (UTC)
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I put the phrase into Google and got two references:

SENN, HARRY A
Jungian shamanism. Special Issue: Shamanism and altered states of consciousness.
Journal of Psychoactive Drugs; 1989 Jan-Mar Vol 21(1) 113-121
Contends that Jung might finally achieve the acceptance and stature that many therapists and healers believe he merits if his work were recognized as a pioneering exposition of Western shamanism. The path of Jung's life describes a trajectory that intersects all of the 5 features of shamanistic phenomenology: the call, the method, the altered state of consciousness, the healing, and paranormal feats. These features distinguish Jung from the general category of psychotherapists and link him to historic shamanism.


Daniel C. Noel, PhD.
"Jungian Shamanism and the Social History of a Sacred Heritage." San Fransisco Jung Institute Library Journal, 16, 4 (1998).


Journal of Psychoactive Drugs. 1989 Jan-Mar;21(1):113-21.

Jungian shamanism.

Senn HA.

Pitzer College, Claremont, California 91711.

The literature on shamanism generally describes a specially gifted individual who is able to contact and communicate with a realm where spirit beings offer wisdom and help, and who actively transmits this knowledge to others. There seem to be approximately five features that define shamanism: the necessity of a "call"--an illness or accident that signifies the necessity of the individual to work with the spirits; the method used to achieve communion with the altered state of reality; the quality of the altered state of consciousness (ASC); the process of healing that is utilized; and the psychic feats that distinguish the abilities of a shaman. Carl Jung displayed all five of these features in his life and psychotherapy, including dreams and waking fantasies in childhood; the use of active imagination in the induction of an ASC; contact with forces, knowledge, and power of the unconscious; a dual "personality," and the dialogue with the inner world--the unconscious, the realm of the archetypes; the use of these discoveries to counsel, advise, and heal; and psychic abilities, such as clairvoyance and out-of-body experiences.


PMID: 2656947 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


And then clicking "related articles" gives 133 more!

I do a lot of research but I change topics often, sometimes every few minutes. :-)

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honey, IF

from: ainanna
date: Aug. 14th, 2003 04:07 pm (UTC)
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IF you were looking for a definition of that you need to ask the source who created it...ie. MOI...

just like you do....I've just "grown into my own definition of that" not any ONE elses...you have to "live it" and come into your own about it....through experience....recreating and living out the ideas...revising as you go along...like writing music...of life...

just giving you a hard time :) YOU BETTER TELL ME your reaction to BAKtHIN...see my journal....i think you might find your Selves there... ;) the poly ONE.

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Triple Entendre

Re: honey, IF

from: triple_entendre
date: Aug. 16th, 2003 03:39 am (UTC)
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I don't look for definitions anymore, only inspirations ;-)

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....a mindwalker sabbatical

from: ainanna
date: Aug. 14th, 2003 11:45 am (UTC)
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...in solitude....finally leaping out of the machine of public schools to do some inner work....

i've just "been silent" ;) since last October 31 and for the first time NEEDED to get all my ideas out...creatively...to different kinds of audiences that might be out there....some i know and some i don't.

and some i gnow but haven't met yet.

kinda like the opposite of drinking from the fire hose.... ;)

hey....i'm not "controlling this" or "trying to" for NOW....i just don't gnow how much "NOW" I have left...

do any of us...

that's why we have to speak

and listen to each other...

*defensive, wiping a drop of blood drawn from clumspy TOM CAT PAW. CAREFUL.*

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Triple Entendre

Re: ANOTHER DIFFERENT Echo from that Sphinx again....

from: triple_entendre
date: Aug. 14th, 2003 03:26 pm (UTC)
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No offense meant! Not making judgements; just trying to interpret.

Jungian shamanism
Those are two words that go together really well, I like it.

Thanks for the book reference, I'll find it and post the link here.

Gotta go for now, flying to Portland for a little vacation, will post more later.... :)

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there's waldo...:) RALPH WALDO EMERSON

from: anonymous
date: Aug. 13th, 2003 07:28 pm (UTC)
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doesn't all REAL T r u t h

lie IN THE DETAILS REALLY....especially the ones WE ARE NOT SEEING...that WE NEED TO BE SEING??

seriously ;)

THE ONLY SIN IS LIMITATION...

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